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#11
08-10-2014, 02:26 PM
 theomeo1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New jersey Posts: 3

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 Originally Posted by Blab I don't know, Stanstar, but I am sure that some of the players on here must be among the best anywhere. I do only 4x7 challenging puzzles, but can't seem to get any better than about 12 minutes on the average, despite having spent many years doing logic puzzles lots more difficult than these. Yet, there are several people on here that can do these puzzles in half that time, and less. I am amazed.
Since you have been doing logic grid puzzles, what benefits do you notice. Secondly are there logic puzzles you have seen with at least 28 clues.
#12
08-10-2014, 07:58 PM
 Blab Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 10
Re grids and 28 clues or more

Hi, theomeo1. In the October 2014 PennyPress Original Logic Puzzles book, at the back of the book where the hardest puzzles are, there was one I just did that had 20 clues. (The clue section is actually numbered 1 through 9, but each numbered paragraph contains multiple distinctive clues; the numbers being for reference purposes in the puzzle solving explanation section at the very end of the book.). In the past, I think some of these puzzles have had 28 or more distinctive clues. The puzzle I just did took me several hours in each of two separate days to complete. (I'm thinking Zenobia could probably do it in twenty minutes!). Anyway these kinds of puzzles, that require a lot of thinking and scribbling things out on paper, have always been my favorite. I tended to skip the grid puzzles in the books I got because they seemed boring in comparison. Then I discovered this site and started doing grid puzzles with a passion. I think that the element of racing against the clock--and still getting to do some thinking--was what appealed to me, However, I seem to find that using a grid takes away a little bit from the process of deductive reasoning based on the clues alone. I often find myself making answer choices based on patterns on the grid--such as seeing that the same two, three spaces on the grid are empty for two, three rows or columns on the grid, rather than coming to the conclusion that, for example, only John, Ted or Mary could have lived in Idaho, Kansas or Kentucky because of whatever deductive reasoning it took to come to that conclusion. On the other hand, I have actually made huge grids for some of the long puzzles that I do because that was the only way I could manage the elimination process. In short, when it comes to logic puzzles for me, it's all good. (Jeez, I just looked at my post. They don't call me Blab for nothing.)
#13
08-12-2014, 09:53 AM
 aliciacoral Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11

I used to be a software engineer, but am now completely burned out on coding (retired). I started doing logic puzzles to keep my brain alive, but now I'm just totally addicted. I find they really do help in keeping my brain active, tho'. In answer to your other question, I have never seen 20 clues. Hope you enjoy :-)
#14
08-12-2014, 11:57 AM
 theomeo1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New jersey Posts: 3
Blab & Alic

Thank you for your response. Yes I agree logic grid puzzles keep your brain active and help you in everyday life. by looking at a life problem with the same look you would give a grid puzzle problem. Just today a problem with a renter came up and I was able to dissect using the information and come to a conclusion.
#15
11-17-2015, 09:50 AM
 pcuser Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 167
World championship

As to the thought that this is the English championship, I know you can change the language of the site to other languages. I don't know for sure you can then play, but it looks like you can. That would mean this is one of the sites played by the better players. Certainly, since these are self selected very good players, average is pretty good. Also, consider that most puzzles have relatively low completion rates. So, when you solve a puzzle, you are among the top half of the players...
#16
11-22-2015, 01:35 PM
 Janalan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North wales Posts: 6
Champions

Pcuser you are very supportive of us average players, thank you
#17
11-22-2015, 02:00 PM
 pcuser Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 167

If one can't help others, what's the point...
#18
11-23-2015, 03:40 PM
 meeyore Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1

One problem I see with a World Championship is the variation of internet access speeds. I have timed myself on puzzles from when the puzzle appears to the time I hit "Submit" and there has been as much as a 20 second difference between "real time" and my puzzle time. So times can be skewed by the availablity of faster internet.

Just a thought.

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