Old 03-26-2014, 03:59 PM
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Question Yet another hint question

I'm not confused about the meaning of the clue given here. I just think it's incorrect. "port" and "sea bass" are both indeed one step away from other entries. However, those other entries are not in the same category. "Port" is one step below "Yolanda" (Name category) and "Sea bass" is one step below "Riesling" (Wines category). How can this be right?
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:33 AM
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If you just look at the clues the way they are written, you are right. But you have to look at your grid and consider what you already know... which is that Riesling equals Frances. That means you can rewrite the clues like this:

#1 Frances paid 1 dollar more than the diner who ordered the sea bass.

#8 Yolanda paid 1 dollar more than the one who had the port.

Now you can see that port and sea bass are both 1 dollar less than two different items in the same category.

Hope that helps!
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:59 AM
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At first, it might seem that the clue is incorrect. However, when you include the information from Clue 4, it will make more sense.

Clue 4: Frances = riesling

Clue 1: riesling is one more than sea bass. Using the notation the Baron showed us ..

sea bass -> riesling

and adding the fact that Frances = riesling ...

sea bass -> riesling, Frances

Clue 8: port is one less than Yolanda.

port -> Yolanda

Now put the two notations together and look for common elements or elements in the same category.

sea bass -> riesling, Frances
port -> Yolanda

Notice that Frances and Yolanda are on the same side of the relations, and they are in the same category. We know that Frances and Yolanda cannot be in the same row, and since they are both exactly one step away from sea bass and port, it follows that sea bass and port cannot be in the same row either.

In your grid, that leaves only one choice left for port. That should move things along.

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Old 03-27-2014, 10:19 AM
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Hi Argle, these are the kind of hints that get me confused too. However this one is quite easy. On your grid, Yolanda is equal to Bordeaux or Zinfandel which are both drinks. Sea Bass is one step cheaper than Riesling and Port is one step cheaper than either Bordeaux or Zinfandel. So therefore Port does not equal Sea Bass. I hope this helps.

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