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zztop 10-26-2008 10:56 AM

tips for getting faster
 
Anyone have tips for getting faster?

red20silver19 10-27-2008 12:43 PM

From my experience, I think you can speed up by choosing which clues you deal with first, rather than simply going through the list.

I choose to complete the clues in the following order:
1. The 5 people are - this always gives you 9 X's on your grid, so dealing with this first makes that clear.
2. The Positive clues - eg Polly drinks cola
3. The Negative clues - eg Polly does not drink cola
4. The remaining clues

Hope that helps :)

zztop 10-27-2008 10:50 PM

thanks for that!

Ijust don't know how people can get 200-300seconds! ever

flutefish 10-28-2008 05:26 AM

fast times
 
You will find that once you get used to the process, you will get much faster. That process is the same one I use, and it works well for me. The other thing I do that helps me get faster time is that after I do the 5 people clue, I do all the clues that have the ranking in them (either $ amt, times, place in line, etc.). Then all the other positive clues, negative clues, and then the remaining clues.

zztop 10-30-2008 08:15 AM

thanks flutefish

Do you X all boxes?

mikiboop 10-31-2008 03:09 PM

I'm slow and methodical, so I x most negatives, until I get to the point that I'm moving known positives from the bottom to the top. If I have all the positives in second and third squares down the left, I don't finish second down on the right. You'll know after a while when you have enough info to have all the answers and it's safe to skip some x's.
If you have access to more than one computer, try them all, it makes a big difference. Some just react faster and smoother. Screen shape changes it. With some screens, not all clues fit on the screen and you have to scroll down. Personally, I do better if I take my time because then I don't make mistakes and have to start over.
Interuptions and distractions are my biggest problem.

mcgalas 11-01-2008 08:13 PM

Green Dots only on top section
 
TO actually submit the solution, you only have to place the green dots in the top 3 sections (left to right). The middle 2 sections and the lowest section do not actually need the green dots... so that could save you up to 15 green clicks (obviously to learn and go thru the clues you will click some of these anyhow, if not most of them).

But that could save time as well. Hope that helps some of you.

flutefish 11-02-2008 03:54 AM

X-ing negatives
 
zztop,

It depends on the puzzle. I X all the boxes for the 5 people clue, always. That always helps me later on. I always mark all the negatives in the first row. I will do the ones below the first row if it helps me. I'd say that it's about a 50-50 split for that. If I have a lot of information in the first row very quickly, I won't do the 2nd and 3rd row of the grid, just work from the top row. If I don't have a lot of information in the first row, i.e. it's all spread around, then I will use the entire grid. So it depends on the puzzle.

Hope that helps.

--Rella

zztop 11-02-2008 04:31 AM

thanks ALL for your help!

I think I am doing the right things but am just slow.

Also doesn't help when someone else HAS to have computer mid puzzle!

I played for a while before registering - can't believe how much pressure getting good stats puts on you!

Also if I press "Start the Puzzle" too early - grid & clues have not all loaded

Thanks again

Z

MadSlantedPowers 11-04-2008 07:16 AM

I've improved a lot lately. I used to use a spreadsheet and enter all the options there first before starting the puzzle. Once I would start, I would do the 5 people clue so I would have one item in each of five rows. The autofill feature in the spreadsheet made typing the names quicker. Then I would go back and start filling in the grid with all the clues. When done with that, I'd go back and fill in the spreadsheet some more. There were some things that I could see easier by looking there instead of the grid.

Eventually, I got to the point where now I usually only enter the first 5 person clue into the spreadsheet and don't need to revisit it unless I get stuck. So, now I am regularly scoring over 400 points a puzzle, and even got a high score on one.

Recently I came across a puzzle that kind of threw me off because it didn't have the 5 person clue. I've also come across one recently that either didn't have a First Name category, or it was in the third column instead of the first.


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